Lean towards buying the petrol automatic, as the SUV will drive less with mostly short distance trips.
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After two years of swinging in thrush over Porsches and Ferraris, I’ve decided to take the plunge.
Can’t wait to get the thar convertible home.
Although I think the diesel AT is better than the Thar, I am thinking of getting the petrol AT. Reason = BS6 exhaust. This is the 5th car in the house and will only be a weekend/night toy. Running would be 100 – 300km/month max, used only once a week, and I have other fast German sedans to drive on the highway.
The main reason I’m wary of diesel ATs is the complicated exhaust system. Due to my low mileage and short distance travel (think up to 5 km from Bandra or Worli), I don’t want to end up with DPFs and faults. Any thoughts? Would love a diesel AT with a tuning box / remap, but it’s only the BS6 systems that are putting me off. Another small influence is that I’m pretty sure about Mumbai after Delhi after the 10 year diesel ban (though I’ll be upgrading to a 3rd gen Thar after 10 years anyway).
Want really, really fat tires. It’s non-negotiable for stance (check the rims on my current rides too). At least 285mm, open to 305 (a friend has a 305/60/R16 and I like his Jeep stance). OK with 18″ rims, too open for 16″ wheels with long sidewalls. What are the recommended tire sizes for 285mm and above? Good sources for wheels?
what is here BHPian shankar.balan On this matter had to say:
Good to see you getting on the Thar bandwagon. Welcome aboard!
What color are you getting? In the current dispensation, the best colors are Galaxy Grey, followed by Rocky Beige and then Black.
This is a great car. Speaking as a Thar and a Gypsy owner, I’m sure it will complement your garage and enhance your lifestyle even better than the Classic.
You will surely enjoy it.
I offer some thoughts to your points above.
- Yes Petrol AT. For the right reasons, you have already stated. Very little running. Short on city trip. DPF headache. Ban on diesel.
- Yes convertible. Because it is only for weekend or night use. And it is a Jeep thing after all. (Do not leave valuables inside unless you are parking in a secure area)
- Yes for tire upsize. It improves posture and makes it more purposeful and increases efficiency.
- Up to number 305. On 18-inch rims, they’ll be too big and can compromise articulation and steering/suspension geometry, as well as fuel efficiency. The negatives of such a large size would far outweigh the positives in my book. (16 inch rims are a good idea if you are going off-roading etc.)
- Yes 285/60/18 – Maxxis 980 AT. Because it’s a SoBo tractor if I can use a La Chelsea tractor and a Land Rover. They’re significantly better value, look great, will fill the wheel wells well and give you what you’re looking for in terms of stance and looks, plus performance without the pain. Advantages of
- Not to change the stock mixture. Just paint them matte black and you’ll have exactly what you’re looking for and you’ll save cash.
Here are some additional tips based on what I’ve done on my Thar.
- Consider an AVO suspension. It honestly makes a huge difference in comfort, handling, braking and dynamics.
- Note the aluminum underbody protection and rear differential guard and steel side steps. These will help you. Especially in the rain of Mumbai to protect the jeep from hidden obstacles. (You will use the Jeep with them without fear)
- Consider a headlamp upgrade to a stock replacement but much brighter lamp – such as the Philips Xtreme Vision G Force 55W or the Osram Night breaker 55W. No cutting of wiring etc.
- Consider two excellent bumper-mounted Hella 700FFs (adequately covered for as long as you need them.
- Note that the JL Jeep Wrangler looks great with the same grille but in matte black and not in body color unless the body color is black! More so because the all new Thar comes with a plain black bumper unlike the old one.
- A good quality center armrest for the front and two for the rear.
- Consider waterproof Armoro canvas seat covers. They are very strong and of good quality.
- A few extras from Armoro like grab handle storage bags and roll bar mounted canvas storage tubes in the rear. They help a lot with organized storage for small odds and ends.
- A nice big umbrella or two.
- Decathlon canvas camp stools/chairs, a small table and a hiking pole.
- Rear tailgate tray table from Mahindra (for holding food and water on picnics.)
- A pair of white footwell lamps for illumination when entering and exiting in the dark (can be fixed at Mahindra Service/Accessories)
- Boat storage organizer with a basic tool kit and a dynamo or rechargeable flashlight and a heavy duty tire inflator.
- A decent dash cam.
- Reversing camera and front distance sensors (easily fixed at Mahindra Service/Accessories
- Clear UV protective anti-glare film on front windshield (CR70)
- Vinyl wrap on the bonnet ridge and some side vinyl decals to stop the infidels and their ‘key’ movements.
- Lock suitable for spare or custom ‘lifestyle’ spare covers.
- Full undercarriage anti-rust coating.
- Rain visor above front door windows.
this is fun! To share your ideas and customize your Jeep in a weird way and spend your money!
what is here BHPian cool_dub On this matter had to say:
As much as I love diesels, that mStallion unit on the new Thar is a gem and will put a big smile on your face every time you drive it. Believe me, when I first got behind the wheel (test drive) of the new Thar, I was of the mindset (like many of us older Jeep owners) that Jeep == diesel, period. However, the moment I started driving this beautiful petrol Jeep, I couldn’t force myself to think about the M-Hawk, which in itself is vastly superior to the new Thar. Additionally, the following points further tilted the decision in favor of petrol:
- Less running – as in your case, the Thar to me is primarily a weekend toy that drives comfortably in the hair (hence a CT) as opposed to a mile muncher. The odometer reads a measly 5,500 km in about a year that I’ve owned it and I know for sure that will be my ballpark annual run as well. So, fuel consumption is a non-issue for me. Here’s what we got him home for:
- DPF gremlins – given the low mileage, this was bound to pop up sooner or later in a diesel.
- The mStallion’s low end grunt – if it wasn’t for that I’d probably go for the diesel because after all what’s a Jeep without that good low end torque? But this petrol unit has plenty of it.
Go for the petrol AT CT – you’ll enjoy every minute behind the wheel.
what is here BH Payan Jago On this matter had to say:
Go with petrol AT and hardtop.
I know you love open-top trips, but how many do you do in a year?
This vehicle is capable of long journeys and you will definitely be tempted to take it with your lady for a nice off-road spot away from the city. This is when you’ll really curse the soft top decision, plus it’s a fast car.. If something happens (God forbid), that hard top is worth the small compromise on the desirability front. Plus a lockable cabin and do you really want to expose the new Thar’s expensive electronics and interiors to the elements, even casually?
think about it.
As for tires, just get the stock size or just a size BF Goodrich. They are great for off-roading but the heavier it gets. But if you’re only planning to make it a small city car, don’t even bother changing. The stock tires that came are pretty good and the alloys look good.
what is here BHPian navpreet318 On this matter had to say:
Gasoline everywhere!! This is my daily driver. Love the bits! My petrol is HT AT.
- Fat Tires: 18 inch in 285: BFG or Maxxis Bravo 980 would be great.
- Fuel Wheels has some great options. Jeep Tires India. There was a boy in Indore who had 44 wheels. Sadly he passed away. Great options!
- Otherwise, Lenso is another option.
- 6th Mile Customs has some great looking Evo Corse Wheels for that rally driven look!
- Get an AVO suspension. You will love the city ride.
Don’t worry about off-road tires. I don’t even do off-road. Love the stance. There are things we do just to catch a glimpse of a car reversing after parking.
Get JK Grill. Not JL. The JK is the original grille that was also planned by Mahindra. I have it with the original Mahindra logo which makes it look absolutely authentic!
what is here BH Payan Highway Patrol On this matter had to say:
Hi GTO, I would highly recommend going with the diesel AT, the fun to drive the diesel is priceless. This will probably be the last chance we all have to drive a diesel engine in our lifetime with the tougher emission laws ahead.
Regarding the DPF, my diesel AT-Thir has run about 30K kms so far, and not once did my display show a fault. I honestly don’t know what all the fuss is about over DPF issues. I do short runs, long runs, off roads, on roads and whatnot. This Thar has not let me down even once till date!
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